World Outline Podcast Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:38:13 GMT Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:46:41 GMT Adam Curry http://blogs.opml.org/mail/podmonster 1, 12 1 81 199 692 665 <script> function ec (id, showClassName, urlExpand, urlCollapse) { var imgId = 'img_'+ id; if (document.getElementById (id).className == 'hide') { document.getElementById (id).className = showClassName; document.getElementById (imgId).src = urlCollapse; } else { document.getElementById (id).className = 'hide'; document.getElementById(imgId).src = urlExpand; } } </script> <style> .divOutlineBody { padding: 0; margin-left: -16px; } .divOutlineList { margin-left: 0; padding-left: 0; text-indent: 0; } .divOutlineItem { margin-left: 16px; } .spanOutlineText { cursor: pointer; float: none; margin-left: 0; color: black; } .show { display: block; } .hide { display: none; } img.expandIcon { position: relative; left: -16px; margin-right: -16px; padding: 0; border: 0; height: 16px; width: 16px; } </style> <div class="divOutlineBody"> <div class="divOutlineList" style="padding-left: 0;"> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">What's this? A New Podcast? Huh?</span><a name="whatsThisANewPodcastHuh">&nbsp;</a><a href="#whatsThisANewPodcastHuh"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">I was listening to the <a href="http://scripting.com/">podcast</a> I did with Dave Winer this morning and realized that it is out of context for most readers of my blog and many listeners of the <a href="http://noagendashow.com/">No Agenda Show</a>.</span><a name="iWasListeningToTheAHrefhttpscriptingcompodcastaIDidWithDaveWinerThisMorningAndRealizedThatItIsOutOfContextForMostReadersOfMyBlogAndManyListenersOfTheAHrefhttpnoagendashowcomnoAgendaShowa">&nbsp;</a><a href="#iWasListeningToTheAHrefhttpscriptingcompodcastaIDidWithDaveWinerThisMorningAndRealizedThatItIsOutOfContextForMostReadersOfMyBlogAndManyListenersOfTheAHrefhttpnoagendashowcomnoAgendaShowa"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">This particular podcast isn't a show per se. Its a companion to the work we have been collaborating on for the past 2 years.</span><a name="thisParticularPodcastIsntAShowPerSeItsACompanionToTheWorkWeHaveBeenCollaboratingOnForThePast2Years">&nbsp;</a><a href="#thisParticularPodcastIsntAShowPerSeItsACompanionToTheWorkWeHaveBeenCollaboratingOnForThePast2Years"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">The context is development of the <a href="http://howto.worldoutline.org/">World Outline</a>, an application that runs in the <a href="http://home.opml.org/">OPML Editor</a>.</span><a name="theContextIsDevelopmentOfTheAHrefhttphowtoworldoutlineorgworldOutlineaAnApplicationThatRunsInTheAHrefhttphomeopmlorgopmlEditora">&nbsp;</a><a href="#theContextIsDevelopmentOfTheAHrefhttphowtoworldoutlineorgworldOutlineaAnApplicationThatRunsInTheAHrefhttphomeopmlorgopmlEditora"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">We expect the audience to be small, initially only for users and developers who have been following the work on the <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/world-outline">mailing list</a>.</span><a name="weExpectTheAudienceToBeSmallInitiallyOnlyForUsersAndDevelopersWhoHaveBeenFollowingTheWorkOnTheAHrefhttpgroupsgooglecomgroupworldoutlinemailingLista">&nbsp;</a><a href="#weExpectTheAudienceToBeSmallInitiallyOnlyForUsersAndDevelopersWhoHaveBeenFollowingTheWorkOnTheAHrefhttpgroupsgooglecomgroupworldoutlinemailingLista"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">So what is the World Outline? I"m not sure either of us can explain it and pass the elevator test. I have written about it <a href="http://blog.curry.com/stories/2011/06/11/designingTheWorldOutline.html">here</a> and <a href="http://blog.curry.com/stories/2011/12/08/psssstItsAnOutline.html">here</a> from my perspective, but I would probably have written a different piece if I were to do that today</span><a name="soWhatIsTheWorldOutlineImNotSureEitherOfUsCanExplainItAndPassTheElevatorTestIHaveWrittenAboutItAHrefhttpblogcurrycomstories20110611designingtheworldoutlinehtmlhereaAndAHrefhttpblogcurrycomstories20111208psssstitsanoutlinehtmlhereaFromMyPerspectiveButIWouldProbablyHaveWrittenADifferentPieceIfIWereToDoThatToday">&nbsp;</a><a href="#soWhatIsTheWorldOutlineImNotSureEitherOfUsCanExplainItAndPassTheElevatorTestIHaveWrittenAboutItAHrefhttpblogcurrycomstories20110611designingtheworldoutlinehtmlhereaAndAHrefhttpblogcurrycomstories20111208psssstitsanoutlinehtmlhereaFromMyPerspectiveButIWouldProbablyHaveWrittenADifferentPieceIfIWereToDoThatToday"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">And that's also what this podcast is about. It is a conversation that rarely happens in software development. A discussion between the developer and the user.</span><a name="andThatsAlsoWhatThisPodcastIsAboutItIsAConversationThatRarelyHappensInSoftwareDevelopmentADiscussionBetweenTheDeveloperAndTheUser">&nbsp;</a><a href="#andThatsAlsoWhatThisPodcastIsAboutItIsAConversationThatRarelyHappensInSoftwareDevelopmentADiscussionBetweenTheDeveloperAndTheUser"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">There's no production other than the recording of a skype call we do regularly anyway.</span><a name="theresNoProductionOtherThanTheRecordingOfASkypeCallWeDoRegularlyAnyway">&nbsp;</a><a href="#theresNoProductionOtherThanTheRecordingOfASkypeCallWeDoRegularlyAnyway"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">Historically speaking this is an interesting moment. The <a href="http://secrets.scripting.com/">last time</a> we did this together was in 2004. At that time we had similar conversations about a project we were working on that evolved into a media shift known as Podcasting.</span><a name="historicallySpeakingThisIsAnInterestingMomentTheAHrefhttpsecretsscriptingcomlastTimeaWeDidThisTogetherWasIn2004AtThatTimeWeHadSimilarConversationsAboutAProjectWeWereWorkingOnThatEvolvedIntoAMediaShiftKnownAsPodcasting">&nbsp;</a><a href="#historicallySpeakingThisIsAnInterestingMomentTheAHrefhttpsecretsscriptingcomlastTimeaWeDidThisTogetherWasIn2004AtThatTimeWeHadSimilarConversationsAboutAProjectWeWereWorkingOnThatEvolvedIntoAMediaShiftKnownAsPodcasting"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">What's nice now, 8 years later is that we are both older, and have learned a lot about each other and are in different phases of our lives. </span><a name="whatsNiceNow8YearsLaterIsThatWeAreBothOlderAndHaveLearnedALotAboutEachOtherAndAreInDifferentPhasesOfOurLives">&nbsp;</a><a href="#whatsNiceNow8YearsLaterIsThatWeAreBothOlderAndHaveLearnedALotAboutEachOtherAndAreInDifferentPhasesOfOurLives"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><a href="javascript:ec('whereThisWillTakeUsI2165','show','http://scripting.com/images/2011/11/29/blank.gif','http://scripting.com/images/2011/11/29/blank.gif');"><img class="expandIcon" id="img_whereThisWillTakeUsI2165" src="http://scripting.com/images/2011/11/29/blank.gif" border="0"></a><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">Where this will take us, I have no idea. I guess we're just <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPTsmswQVwg">Startin' Somethin'</a>.</span><a name="whereThisWillTakeUsIHaveNoIdeaIGuessWereJustAHrefhttpwwwyoutubecomwatchvdptsmswqvwgstartinSomethina">&nbsp;</a><a href="#whereThisWillTakeUsIHaveNoIdeaIGuessWereJustAHrefhttpwwwyoutubecomwatchvdptsmswqvwgstartinSomethina"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="show" id="whereThisWillTakeUsI2165" name="whereThisWillTakeUsI2165"> <div class="divOutlineList" style="padding-left: 30px;"> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;"><b>[postscript]</b></span><a name="bpostscriptb">&nbsp;</a><a href="#bpostscriptb"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> </div> </div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">The BBC did <a href="http://bbc.nvg.org/history.php3">something similar</a> to what I'm hearing us do here when they made actual profgramming for radio and television about their personal computer</span><a name="theBbcDidAHrefhttpbbcnvgorghistoryphp3somethingSimilaraToWhatImHearingUsDoHereWhenTheyMadeActualProfgrammingForRadioAndTelevisionAboutTheirPersonalComputer">&nbsp;</a><a href="#theBbcDidAHrefhttpbbcnvgorghistoryphp3somethingSimilaraToWhatImHearingUsDoHereWhenTheyMadeActualProfgrammingForRadioAndTelevisionAboutTheirPersonalComputer"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> </div> </div>