I was listening to the podcast I did with Dave Winer this morning and realized that it is out of context for most readers of my blog and many listeners of the No Agenda Show.
![]() This particular podcast isn't a show per se. Its a companion to the work we have been collaborating on for the past 2 years.
![]() We expect the audience to be small, initially only for users and developers who have been following the work on the mailing list.
![]() So what is the World Outline? I"m not sure either of us can explain it and pass the elevator test. I have written about it here and here from my perspective, but I would probably have written a different piece if I were to do that today
![]() And that's also what this podcast is about. It is a conversation that rarely happens in software development. A discussion between the developer and the user.
![]() Historically speaking this is an interesting moment. The last time we did this together was in 2004. At that time we had similar conversations about a project we were working on that evolved into a media shift known as Podcasting.
![]() What's nice now, 8 years later is that we are both older, and have learned a lot about each other and are in different phases of our lives.
![]() The BBC did something similar to what I'm hearing us do here when they made actual profgramming for radio and television about their personal computer
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